Monday, February 2, 2015

Is this really God talking?

I read D&C 132 - This is in our current version of LDS official scripture. The whole section is interesting, but I wanted to look at 44-66. Read the whole section for yourself, it starts off by indicating that these are the very words of Jesus Christ, not what Joseph thought that Jesus might think about it, but it written as if Jesus was there addressing them by name. Here are the verses that I ask you to read:

44 And if she hath not committed adultery, but is innocent and hath not broken her vow, and she knoweth it, and I reveal it unto you, my servant Joseph, then shall you have power, by the power of my Holy Priesthood, to take her and give her unto him that hath not committed adultery but hath been faithful; for he shall be made ruler over many.
 45 For I have conferred upon you the keys and power of the priesthood, wherein I restore all things, and make known unto you all things in due time.
 46 And verily, verily, I say unto you, that whatsoever you seal on earth shall be sealed in heaven; and whatsoever you bind on earth, in my name and by my word, saith the Lord, it shall be eternally bound in the heavens; and whom so ever sins you remitted on earth shall be remitted eternally in the heavens; and whom so ever sins you retain on earth shall be retained in heaven.
 47 And again, verily I say, whomsoever you bless I will bless, and whomsoever you curse I will curse, saith the Lord; for I, the Lord, am thy God.
 48 And again, verily I say unto you, my servant Joseph, that whatsoever you give on earth, and to whomsoever you give any one on earth, by my word and according to my law, it shall be visited with blessings and not cursings, and with my power, saith the Lord, and shall be without condemnation on earth and in heaven.
 49 For I am the Lord thy God, and will be with thee even unto the end of the world, and through all eternity; for verily I seal upon you your exaltation, and prepare a throne for you in the kingdom of my Father, with Abraham your father.
 50 Behold, I have seen your sacrifices, and will forgive all your sins; I have seen your sacrifices in obedience to that which I have told you. Go, therefore, and I make a way for your escape, as I accepted the offering of Abraham of his son Isaac.  
(Jesus promising Joseph Smith Exaltation and thrones in Heaven)
 51 Verily, I say unto you: A commandment I give unto mine handmaid, Emma Smith, your wife, whom I have given unto you, that she stay herself and partake not of that which I commanded you to offer unto her; for I did it, saith the Lord, to prove you all, as I did Abraham, and that I might require an offering at your hand, by covenant and sacrifice.
 52 And let mine handmaid, Emma Smith, receive all those that have been given unto my servant Joseph, and who are virtuous and pure before me; and those who are not pure, and have said they were pure, shall be destroyed, saith the Lord God.  
("all those" refers to the plural wives that Joseph took before the revelation was given. God is retro-actively approving a previously condemned practice now that it is out in the open. Jesus is commanding Emma to accept those women as part of her celestial family. Jesus also indicated that some of those other wives are not "pure" and that they will be destroyed. So Joseph will be forgiven and exalted, and the girls that he convinced to marry him will be "destroyed.) 
 53 For I am the Lord thy God, and ye shall obey my voice; and I give unto my servant Joseph that he shall be made ruler over many things; for he hath been faithful over a few things, and from henceforth I will strengthen him.
 54 And I command mine handmaid, Emma Smith, to abide and cleave unto my servant Joseph, and to none else. But if she will not abide this commandment she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord; for I am the Lord thy God, and will destroy her if she abide not in my law. (Wow, self-explanatory) 
 55 But if she will not abide this commandment, then shall my servant Joseph do all things for her, even as he hath said; and I will bless him and multiply him and give unto him an hundred-fold in this world, of fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters, houses and lands, wives and children, and crowns of eternal lives in the eternal worlds. 
(Jesus stated here that even if Emma will not forgive him, God will bless Joseph with all those things -including wives- again, the woman has no choice but to comply or be destroyed, but Joseph can get away with taking wives of other living men and small girls.)
 56 And again, verily I say, let mine handmaid forgive my servant Joseph his trespasses; and then shall she be forgiven her trespasses, wherein she has trespassed against me; and I, the Lord thy God, will bless her, and multiply her, and make her heart to rejoice. 
(Jesus again commands Emma to forgive him, and only if she does will he forgive her, forgive her for being angry at Joseph for lying to her and cheating on her for years and years)
 57 And again, I say, let not my servant Joseph put his property out of his hands, lest an enemy come and destroy him; for Satan seeketh to destroy; for I am the Lord thy God, and he is my servant; and behold, and lo, I am with him, as I was with Abraham, thy father, even unto his exaltation and glory.  
(Jesus again and again talking about Joseph's exalted status)
 58 Now, as touching the law of the priesthood, there are many things pertaining thereunto.
 59 Verily, if a man be called of my Father, as was Aaron, by mine own voice, and by the voice of him that sent me, and I have endowed him with the keys of the power of this priesthood, if he do anything in my name, and according to my law and by my word, he will not commit sin, and I will justify him.
 60 Let no one, therefore, set on my servant Joseph; for I will justify him; for he shall do the sacrifice which I require at his hands for his transgressions, saith the Lord your God. 
(Jesus here stated that no matter what Joseph has done, don't worry about it "for I will justify him" So Joseph will be forgiven because of a "sacrifice" that the Lord will require of him.)
 61 And again, as pertaining to the law of the priesthood—if any man espouse a virgin, and desire to espouse another, and the first give her consent, and if he espouse the second, and they are virgins, and have vowed to no other man, then is he justified; he cannot commit adultery for they are given unto him; for he cannot commit adultery with that that belongeth unto him and to no one else. 
(Jesus explains the correct procedure of procuring plural wives. The 1st wife must consent, and she needs to be a virgin - Joseph married many women without the consent of Emma and at least 11 women that were not virgins)
 62 And if he have ten virgins given unto him by this law, he cannot commit adultery, for they belong to him, and they are given unto him; therefore is he justified.
 63 But if one or either of the ten virgins, after she is espoused, shall be with another man, she has committed adultery, and shall be destroyed; for they are given unto him to multiply and replenish the earth, according to my commandment, and to fulfil the promise which was given by my Father before the foundation of the world, and for their exaltation in the eternal worlds, that they may bear the souls of men; for herein is the work of my Father continued, that he may be glorified. 
(Jesus explains that if a woman shall be married to two men, she is an adulterer and will be destroyed - but a man can do that, that is ok with Jesus. Here Jesus explains that the purpose of polygamy is to be fruitful and multiply and replenish the earth - so that means SEX)
 64 And again, verily, verily, I say unto you, if any man have a wife, who holds the keys of this power, and he teaches unto her the law of my priesthood, as pertaining to these things, then shall she believe and administer unto him, or she shall be destroyed, saith the Lord your God; for I will destroy her; for I will magnify my name upon all those who receive and abide in my law. 
(Here "Administer unto him" means to have sex with him. So the plural wives will "administer unto him" or "be destroyed saith the Lord your God" - He then goes on to say that he will magnify all those who follow his commandment of having children ie. sex)
 65 Therefore, it shall be lawful in me, if she receive not this law, for him to receive all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him, because she did not believe and administer unto him according to my word; and she then becomes the transgressor; and he is exempt from the law of Sarah, who administered unto Abraham according to the law when I commanded Abraham to take Hagar to wife. 
(Here Jesus again states that the woman needs to accept polygamy -"all things whatsoever I, the Lord his God, will give unto him" refers to multiple wives that should be ok with having sex in order to have children.   - And if she does not, she, the woman who does not want to be one of many sex objects, who does not want to subject her body to a man with many wives, she is "the transgressor")
 66 And now, as pertaining to this law, verily, verily, I say unto you, I will reveal more unto you, hereafter; therefore, let this suffice for the present. Behold, I am Alpha and Omega. Amen. (Thats all for now, if I think of anything else later, I will let you know, Jesus-over and out)
Does those really sound like the words of the Savior? Do you feel the spirit while reading them?Or do you feel anxious, or embarrassed? Do you feel like you have to take common sense, and twist into knots before it would seem that those are the words of the Supreme Creator of the Universe? Don't you think that defending the perverted actions of a liar is a little below God? I don't think he is petty enough to do that. Nor do I think that God would speak that way to one of his beloved daughters. Would he condemn innocent women that were forced into illegal marriage but exalt the man who forced them into it? Would Jesus really threaten to destroy Emma, who had been lied to for years? Jesus forgave the woman who was taken in adultery, but he would destroy Emma for not being ok with Joesph having many wives behind her back? Is it more likely that Jesus would do this, or that Joseph took advantage of the fact that the people trusted that he was the mouthpiece of God and made it sound like god was on his side? Do we believe in a God that would say or do these things? 
Saying that Joseph was just an imperfect man, doing the best he could simply is not accurate. If he was truly doing the best he could, he would have admitted his wrongdoings and forsaken them, instead he used his position of power to make it seem that God had planned it all and he was merely obeying God's Command. That is not just a human mistake, but is evil deception - and that is why it is black and white - that is why either the church is true, or it is not - because it is built upon Joseph Smith and his revelations. "Mormonism must stand or fall on the story of Joseph Smith.  He was either a Prophet of God, divinely called, properly appointed and commissioned or he was one of the biggest frauds this world has ever seen.  There is no middle ground.  If Joseph was a deceiver, who willfully attempted to mislead people, then he should be exposed, his claims should be refuted, and his doctrines shown to be false."  (Doctrines of Salvation Vol. I pp.188-189 Joseph Fielding Smith) 

D&C 132:1 stated that, " I, the Lord, justified my servants Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, as also Moses, David and Solomon, my servants, as touching the principle and doctrine of their having many wives and concubines—"

But the Book of Mormon stated in Jacob 2:24 - "24 Behold, David and Solomon truly had many wives and concubines, which thing was abominable before me, saith the Lord."

To me this shows how J.S. used "revelation" to get what he wanted, and often contradicted himself (Which makes it look like God contradicts Himself). 

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